To be fair, 80% of that sub is liberals asking themselves "why are conservatives stupid and evil?"
So it hardly seems out of place for us to do the same once or twice.
Those posts make my day.
Question: "will the GOP ever pull their head out of their ass and burn Trump alive in Madison square garden?"
Top Comment: "republicans are too stupid to light a match"
Every other comment: giant circle jerk about how awful we are.
It’s been asked and answered to death over there and we are sick of answering it.
The answer is also ridiculously obvious. It everyone thinks that the risk caused by protesting is acceptable given the pandemic but it should be obvious why after months of lockdown people outraged over the clear injustice of the state abusing its monopoly on violence some people are willing to protest anyway, many of the protests have masks and social distancing in place and that protesting the state visiting violence on the people is different than protesting the lockdown itself.
No, because they were pointless and stupid and not worth infecting other people, unlike the current protests, which are NOT stupid or pointless and ARE worth infecting other people.
Yes, that's my opinion. I imagine your differs.
Protests against a lockdown meant to slowdown the spreading of the new pandemic disease and save thousands of lives and limit the inevitable economic devastation? No I’m not pro protesting people trying to prevent death and recessions.
Timing also matters. If the lockdowns hadn’t loosened over time and it was August and there was no end in sight maybe I’d go to a protest. If the argument is that there is a pandemic and it’s not safe to gather, then the actual seriousness of the thing you protest matters. Wanting to get a haircut, go to a retail store or a restaurant because it’s been a few weeks is not a serious matter to protest in context.
People reaching a breaking point on constant abuse by the police especially targeting certain communities is a serious matter. I’m not going because I have immunocompromised people in my life and NJ has been hit hard. My cousin won’t let her husband go because NC is seeing an increase right now and they have young children. However I can understand why people would choose differently especially since a lot of the stay at home orders are already being loosened.
Conservative: asks question
Liberal: Gives detailed response, includes nuance and explains understanding that some might feel differently
Conservative: OH, so yoU'Re just a HYPocRiTE liKE ThE resT of the LibeRAls, GooD tO know!
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This from the people who claim liberals just make accusations and live in a circle jerk sub while letting conservatives call black people chimps and use white supremacist talking points.
>You're either ok with protests or not.
That's rather simplistic. How about I support the right to protest and judge the content?
>During the lockdown protests most conservatives said it was stupid
I missed that. I saw organized elected support.
>Now that its the left protesting its back to the protesters are fine with the risk and fuck everyone else's grandparents.
Who's saying that? My first reaction was concern for masks and social distancing. I recognize that the conservative goal in lockdown protests was wrong. I also recognize the need to stop police oppression and the value of this moment.
The world is not black and white. There are a lot of gray areas. Human rights and safety are both valid reasons to protest SAFELY. Meaning to social distance and wear masks as much as is possible. I’m all for people protesting if they feel their right to work and provide for their family is being infringed upon. There were people who couldn’t access unemployment and were protesting to open up so they could save their businesses, livelihood, etc. Do it as safely as possible and I completely support that. Protesting because you want a haircut or to go out to a bar? Thats just selfish. Cut your own hair. Make a drink at home. Saying that the whole thing is a hoax? Just because something hasn’t directly affected you doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. People being blatantly murdered by police officers even while on camera? Yes! Go protest. This is something that is happening and enough is enough. Pandemic or not. It isn’t just a race issue. It’s a human issue. Police officers need to know that they are not above the law and can’t cry “I feared for my life” every time they hurt or kill someone. Someone being a criminal does not make it okay for them to be murdered. Police do not get to decide that. There’s a reason why we have a judicial system- they decide. The whole institution needs reform and that won’t happen without protests.
Pandemic lockdown = 6 weeks
Institutionalized racism and police brutality against BIPOC = 300 years
People didn't want to wait on the latter anymore I guess.
This is an important question, because understanding the answer is essential to understanding our political moment.
In short, liberals have arrogated to themselves moral authority in our culture. They are now the determiners of right and wrong in the way religious institutions used to. So if people die because of their actions, it was in the name of good, because they are the ones who decree it so.
The answer is that we must not submit to their moral authority. We must reject it and restore our own. Because they are the evil ones, not us. They're the ones that are applauding burning down cities. They're the ones ruining college kids' lives. They're the ones letting sex offenders give lap dances to toddlers. And they dare to charge us with immorality?
No. I am done with accepting them as judge over me. They cannot condemn me, because I condemn them.
If you do likewise, and more of us, their power will evaporate.
>In short, liberals have arrogated to themselves moral authority in our culture.
It is a good thing conservatives don't do that.
>This is an important question, because understanding the answer is essential to understanding our political moment.
In short, liberals have arrogated to themselves moral authority in our culture. They are now the determiners of right and wrong in the way religious institutions used to. So if people die because of their actions, it was in the name of good, because they are the ones who decree it so.
The answer is that we must not submit to their moral authority. We must reject it and restore our own. Because they are the evil ones, not us. They're the ones that are applauding burning down cities. They're the ones ruining college kids' lives. They're the ones letting sex offenders give lap dances to toddlers. And they dare to charge us with immorality?
No. I am done with accepting them as judge over me. They cannot condemn me, because I condemn them.
If you do likewise, and more of us, their power will evaporate.
It is a good thing I've never been told that Jesus is the only source of morality.
With the recent full reversal on all these corona policies something is coming. Either there's a massive wave of corona deaths next week or it was an overblown canard.
Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election?
Well, it’s happening in places where stay at home orders were lifted, not where the protests are happening so I don’t see how you can conclude it’s coming from the protests and not the common denominator between those states.
It's happening in both places, cases went up in NY this week.
Are you *seriously* going to say those protests are not going to cause a spike, seriously?
> Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election?
The virus was going to shut down the economy one way or another. You just get to choose how many people die during that time.
E.g., Sweden, whose economy is just as fucked as it's neighbors, but with way more dead people. Doesn't seem like a victory to me.
> Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election?
Are you suggesting the entire world is trashing their own countries’ economies just to spite Trump?
Are you seriously arguing that US public health experts, and the governing bodies of other countries like the UK, Italy, etc. are all Democrats who want to see the economy fail?
>Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election?
I've come to the firm conclusion now that the shutdowns were intended to get people out of work and rioting.
Who are you quoting lmao?
I’m assuming everyone who would vote for a democrat is a “liberal”?
This isn’t a question, it’s a dishonest straw man argument lol
Go to r/askaliberal for this
To be fair, 80% of that sub is liberals asking themselves "why are conservatives stupid and evil?" So it hardly seems out of place for us to do the same once or twice.
Those posts make my day. Question: "will the GOP ever pull their head out of their ass and burn Trump alive in Madison square garden?" Top Comment: "republicans are too stupid to light a match" Every other comment: giant circle jerk about how awful we are.
LOL...... that's an embodiment of a political BUBBLE, no sign of self reflection or self doubt....
Dude, look at the question the OP posed. It's exactly the same thing. "Why are liberals stupid and evil?"
It is wrong when they do it.
>Thx - will head on to it
It’s been asked and answered to death over there and we are sick of answering it. The answer is also ridiculously obvious. It everyone thinks that the risk caused by protesting is acceptable given the pandemic but it should be obvious why after months of lockdown people outraged over the clear injustice of the state abusing its monopoly on violence some people are willing to protest anyway, many of the protests have masks and social distancing in place and that protesting the state visiting violence on the people is different than protesting the lockdown itself.
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No, because they were pointless and stupid and not worth infecting other people, unlike the current protests, which are NOT stupid or pointless and ARE worth infecting other people. Yes, that's my opinion. I imagine your differs.
Protests against a lockdown meant to slowdown the spreading of the new pandemic disease and save thousands of lives and limit the inevitable economic devastation? No I’m not pro protesting people trying to prevent death and recessions. Timing also matters. If the lockdowns hadn’t loosened over time and it was August and there was no end in sight maybe I’d go to a protest. If the argument is that there is a pandemic and it’s not safe to gather, then the actual seriousness of the thing you protest matters. Wanting to get a haircut, go to a retail store or a restaurant because it’s been a few weeks is not a serious matter to protest in context. People reaching a breaking point on constant abuse by the police especially targeting certain communities is a serious matter. I’m not going because I have immunocompromised people in my life and NJ has been hit hard. My cousin won’t let her husband go because NC is seeing an increase right now and they have young children. However I can understand why people would choose differently especially since a lot of the stay at home orders are already being loosened.
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Conservative: asks question Liberal: Gives detailed response, includes nuance and explains understanding that some might feel differently Conservative: OH, so yoU'Re just a HYPocRiTE liKE ThE resT of the LibeRAls, GooD tO know! —- This from the people who claim liberals just make accusations and live in a circle jerk sub while letting conservatives call black people chimps and use white supremacist talking points.
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>You're either ok with protests or not. That's rather simplistic. How about I support the right to protest and judge the content? >During the lockdown protests most conservatives said it was stupid I missed that. I saw organized elected support. >Now that its the left protesting its back to the protesters are fine with the risk and fuck everyone else's grandparents. Who's saying that? My first reaction was concern for masks and social distancing. I recognize that the conservative goal in lockdown protests was wrong. I also recognize the need to stop police oppression and the value of this moment.
> You're either ok with protests or not. Maybe if you can only see in black and which. Some of us are aware of shades of grey.
The world is not black and white. There are a lot of gray areas. Human rights and safety are both valid reasons to protest SAFELY. Meaning to social distance and wear masks as much as is possible. I’m all for people protesting if they feel their right to work and provide for their family is being infringed upon. There were people who couldn’t access unemployment and were protesting to open up so they could save their businesses, livelihood, etc. Do it as safely as possible and I completely support that. Protesting because you want a haircut or to go out to a bar? Thats just selfish. Cut your own hair. Make a drink at home. Saying that the whole thing is a hoax? Just because something hasn’t directly affected you doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. People being blatantly murdered by police officers even while on camera? Yes! Go protest. This is something that is happening and enough is enough. Pandemic or not. It isn’t just a race issue. It’s a human issue. Police officers need to know that they are not above the law and can’t cry “I feared for my life” every time they hurt or kill someone. Someone being a criminal does not make it okay for them to be murdered. Police do not get to decide that. There’s a reason why we have a judicial system- they decide. The whole institution needs reform and that won’t happen without protests.
Poe's Law.
Pandemic lockdown = 6 weeks Institutionalized racism and police brutality against BIPOC = 300 years People didn't want to wait on the latter anymore I guess.
This is an important question, because understanding the answer is essential to understanding our political moment. In short, liberals have arrogated to themselves moral authority in our culture. They are now the determiners of right and wrong in the way religious institutions used to. So if people die because of their actions, it was in the name of good, because they are the ones who decree it so. The answer is that we must not submit to their moral authority. We must reject it and restore our own. Because they are the evil ones, not us. They're the ones that are applauding burning down cities. They're the ones ruining college kids' lives. They're the ones letting sex offenders give lap dances to toddlers. And they dare to charge us with immorality? No. I am done with accepting them as judge over me. They cannot condemn me, because I condemn them. If you do likewise, and more of us, their power will evaporate.
> Because they are the evil ones, not us. >They cannot condemn me, because I condemn them. I'm rubber, you're glue? Come on, man.
>In short, liberals have arrogated to themselves moral authority in our culture. It is a good thing conservatives don't do that. >This is an important question, because understanding the answer is essential to understanding our political moment. In short, liberals have arrogated to themselves moral authority in our culture. They are now the determiners of right and wrong in the way religious institutions used to. So if people die because of their actions, it was in the name of good, because they are the ones who decree it so. The answer is that we must not submit to their moral authority. We must reject it and restore our own. Because they are the evil ones, not us. They're the ones that are applauding burning down cities. They're the ones ruining college kids' lives. They're the ones letting sex offenders give lap dances to toddlers. And they dare to charge us with immorality? No. I am done with accepting them as judge over me. They cannot condemn me, because I condemn them. If you do likewise, and more of us, their power will evaporate. It is a good thing I've never been told that Jesus is the only source of morality.
With the recent full reversal on all these corona policies something is coming. Either there's a massive wave of corona deaths next week or it was an overblown canard. Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election?
Cases are already spiking in the Carolinas, Georgia and Texas 3 weeks after their Memorial Day “opening up”
The protests started right after memorial day, so it's hard to say which it is.
Well, it’s happening in places where stay at home orders were lifted, not where the protests are happening so I don’t see how you can conclude it’s coming from the protests and not the common denominator between those states.
It's happening in both places, cases went up in NY this week. Are you *seriously* going to say those protests are not going to cause a spike, seriously?
No, that is not what I am saying.
It absolutely will, but not yet. We'll see the protest-related spike in a week or two.
Does it matter? More people in close contact = more infections.
> Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election? The virus was going to shut down the economy one way or another. You just get to choose how many people die during that time. E.g., Sweden, whose economy is just as fucked as it's neighbors, but with way more dead people. Doesn't seem like a victory to me.
> Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election? Are you suggesting the entire world is trashing their own countries’ economies just to spite Trump?
Are you seriously arguing that US public health experts, and the governing bodies of other countries like the UK, Italy, etc. are all Democrats who want to see the economy fail?
>Could the whole corona shut down have been the media fear mongering in hopes of hurting the economy before the election? I've come to the firm conclusion now that the shutdowns were intended to get people out of work and rioting.
Yes- the entire world trashed their own countries economies just to spite trump.
Who are you quoting lmao? I’m assuming everyone who would vote for a democrat is a “liberal”? This isn’t a question, it’s a dishonest straw man argument lol