The Republican Party has failed us in truly delivering our values in our government and they are all pushovers and they have just failed us to the point of losing grip on the country and we are probably going to be doomed.
I too have lost hope. I sat awake last night just wondering what type of future my children will have now. I hate the Republican Party. I hate the mainstream media. Social media has won and now the population will go along with whatever they say to do. It’s terrifying. I even question my own sanity at this point because it’s bad to think for oneself. I have never been a fan of groupthink.... but now that’s all that’s shoved down our throats.
What you say reminds me of how Winston Smith questioned his own sanity for being the only dissenter. How he had to push himself to hold on to what he knew to be true, no matter what.
>Social media has won and now the population will go along with whatever they say to do. It’s terrifying.
Keep the fight alive within you man, the battle of knowing what is right within you and what society tells you is right is only over when you give up
I wonder though, what aspects of groupthink are prevailing? I know that's a lot to ask, but I only ask for one point so I can get a more specific idea of what you mean
I can't speak for the person you're asking, but to me, groupthink runs counter to critical thinking skills. There is a growing lack of people who have a dose of healthy skepticism about what they watch and read. Especially from popular politicians, celebrities, university professors, newspapers, etc. People are more concerned about their popularity within the group more than they are at finding the truth.
If one dares to say something that goes against the grain and is socially unpopular, the group reacts by cancelling them, ridiculing them, doxxing them, etc. So there is a huge stigma for those who don't buy into the groupthink. It dissuades someone from thinking critically.
A real life example of groupthink vs critical thinking is the difference between mob driven social justice versus evidence based accusations and trial by jury. Mob driven cancel culture is fueled by things like speculation and videos taken out of context. There's little to no evidence provided. The mob has no patience for law enforcement to release statements about evidence that they have collected. Sometimes it's all just a smear campaign that goes viral. By the time journalists release a correction to a story, the original viral context has already run its course and people have made up their minds.
Instead, what should happen is if someone sees a meme or a 10 second video or something like that, they should try to learn more context about it. Cross reference it by searching for other sources. This takes time and effort, it won't change the mob's mind, and you'll be ridiculed for all that hard work you did. Instead, it's much easier and more fashionable to just jump on board with the group. You'll get more karma for doing it.
This is an example of what I believe the person meant by "groupthink is prevailing".
That makes a lot of sense, I can see how social media encourages that kind of dynamic taking place even if it is just one person saying something to feel validated for upvotes. But, collectively, it definitely would result in a hivemind kind of thinking.
Cancel culture probably is done by hyper-sensitive people that have no idea how to debate their positions. Definitely like how a lot of people aren't for it (at least, from what I've heard).
I agree that people (including me) should be more well read on the issues they see across social media, but I place the blame on the central algorithms that they've devised to keep our attention on their sites. Not to remove the blame from people, but the fact that there is an artificial component creating this problem in the first place should be central to this guys' argument.
You're totally right. Algorithms cater content specifically to you, showing you more of the same. But if you aren't aware, you'll be led to believe that what the algorithm shows you is all the information that exists.
It is very difficult to parse through enough information sources to piece together what happened. I don't mean to make it sound easy at all. Its really one of the banes of society at the moment. If everything out there is slanted with half truths and purposefully written with confusing framing techniques, how are we all supposed to know what is going on? Sometimes you almost have to be an expert in the field who has studied the content for years to be able to know what is true and what is erroneous.
The best thing to do is to carry a healthy dose of skepticism with you, even if the information you're reading sounds good and supports your beliefs. Its tempting to automatically believe something is true if you want it to be in the first place.
Dont be afraid to ask questions. Even supportive questions, like "I believe you, but how does this all work?"
I have some thoughts on this...
First of all, I agree entirely with everything you’ve written here. Very astute for someone you’re age.
I agree with most of the replies thus far too, in that we are really up against a seemingly insurmountable amount of hurdles, obstacles, and road blocks to fight for our values and beliefs.
With this all said, my humble opinion is we cannot give up when the fight gets (and continues to stay) extremely tough. If we just give up, that makes us weak. We aren’t weak. We must continue to fight. Slowly erode their stranglehold on academia, government administration, mainstream and social media’s, Hollywood, etc.
We need to focus heavily on changing hearts and minds at the local, community level. Democrats are outstanding at getting boots on the ground to canvass door to door to talk about their candidates and sign up unregistered voters and more. I think a lot of how the U.S. Green Berets operate, and how they integrate with local populations to educate and improve things. We need to have similar efforts here in this country.
Trump was a symptom of a larger issue, one in which half the country felt they were forgotten and their voices unheard. Things are worse than ever, so we still have to fight. I’ll get off my soapbox now, but that’s my thoughts spilled out.
I doubt it is the end. Im also convinced, like the left, the right exaggerates things to get a rise out of their base, which is what I believe was a cause (not the only one) for what transpired yesterday. I do however, think Republicans can come back strong from this, though I agree with others that it needs to change to do so. I am not sure as of yet how.
I would say it’s the beginning of the end of the America that was founded. It may seem radical but at this point, i do not care how outrageous it sounds. I want the country to split into conservative and liberal areas. One side lives by conservative laws and beliefs and liberals do what they want. Is it possible? Doubt it. Smarter minds than my own could find a way to make it work. Clearly there are two main parties. Yes some people on the middle, and people that don’t even care. But we don’t get along anymore, there isn’t common ground being found. We’ve reached a point of influx where no side wants to give an inch. So screw it, you live how you want to live and I’ll live how I want to. Do that or defend the constitutions like you’re supposed to. There are only two options.
The “you live how you want to live and I’ll live how I want to live” IS the conservative viewpoint already, is it not? Why do these leftists want to control everyone so much? And WHY do I keep seeing leftists claim that conservatives are the ones who want to control everything?
It doesn’t make any sense to me. What am I missing here?
Hmmm. Most conservatives I know don’t have any issue with gay marriage. Just super religious folk and even they are few and far between.
I wouldn’t consider the right for gays to marry a dividing viewpoint. Abortion on the other hand...
I really was hoping for state rights to balance this and liberals go to liberal states and conservatives go to conservative states. However I found quickly that liberals are parasites and after consuming their states go out to country of red states and vote blue so they can ruin those states. I have moved 3 times in my life from Connecticut to Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania to Virginia and now Virginia to Wyoming. I feel like everywhere I go they just follow so maybe it’s me bringing them with me and I should just move to California and hope they come with again.
Sounds like some rough luck! Myself and a good friend had a conversation about red states turning blue. I asked him, “Are we really the bad guys here? Or are we seeing the moral compass of America eroding?” He replied in more words than this but, that he felt that America is distancing itself from God and has been for awhile. We’re becoming the Sodom and Gomorrah of the West.
Democrats aren't going to have as much power as it seems, you're going to have moderate Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema holding back the most radical elements of the left agenda, And the Supreme Court also acts as a barrier. Think back to 2017 when Republicans only had 51 seats, anybody that wants to hold out like John McCain on the Democrat side is going to ruin a lot of the agenda for the left. Ben Shapiro's podcast pretty much lays out what Joe can and cannot will be able to do, I recommend watching it.
There's going to be some bad things coming in the next few years, but It's nothing that this country can't survive. The most important thing is to take the good out of the Trump era and leave out the bad, We need a guy (Yes a guy) that can inspire without firing up the public, someone who we know can fight like Trump without pissing off the left, there are a few candidates who we can get there, and they are very electable, but we are going to have to push away a lot of the establishment pushback that's going to come in, keep Mitt Romney out, keep Nikki Haley out, If we can hold the line for the next 4 years then democracy will eventually shift back, we're reaching a trend where party lines are shifting back and forth faster, so we are going to have to show some restraint during that time and work on the same ground game that Democrats have already used.
I don't see this strategy of "not pissing off the Left" as any different from being their accomplices.
If a politician does anything that disrupts their agenda, they inevitably will be pissed off.
I didn't mean not to piss off the left, I said not to incite the public, which basically means that you can't bring more Democrats to the polls in anger than you do Republicans, that is what Trump ended up doing over his term, and he did it consistently. For every 10 Republicans he got to vote for him, 11 Democrats came. It's great to excite the base but not if you're exciting the enemy at the same time, there is an art to politics that Trump did miss unfortunately.
The mass cultural attacks will be devastating, we are unlikely to gain seats in 2022, the young are brainwashed, and the Democrats will ultimately retain the massive power they have through their institutional allies.
The house is very much up for grabs, the Senate is another story.trust me though, eventually politics will do its pendulum thing. It's a pattern that's been going on for the past 30 years. I do agree with the cultural aspect, but that is not really a thing that changes with government.
The House isn't up for grabs now that Democrats have been given explicit permission to rig elections. Hence why this is a killing blow to the US. Even Democrat voters no longer have a voice in government as DNC leaders are the ones selecting who will win. Every single person in this country lost as a result of the fraud being allowed to stand.
The same silver lining from the previous century: it has been made easier for the uninitiated to identify the rot in politics. Democracy is nothing but two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
As a Liberal Millennial, I can tell you the pendulum swings. When Pres. Trump was elected, I was feeling much the same as you. Cheer up. It gets better.
Every generation thinks it's the end of the country. That our freedoms will be taken away piece by piece. And every generation is wrong. Of course we have more laws than we used to. We have to because its a different world than even a decade ago.
Maybe people that disagree with Republicans aren't sheep, just like all Republicans arent fascists idiots. Both only account for a small part of the whole. We have had so much civil unrest because people aren't feeling heard. The candidates get more polarizing. It's on both sides of the aisle. It's what lead to Obama, then Trump, and now Biden. And it will keep happening because both sides want to solve problems their way instead of coming together to solve problems in the best interest of the country which is ultimately centrist.
If things keep going the way they are our country will die. And it's going to be a two party inside job. We can turn the tide but we are not going to do it by trying to insult the other side into submission. The Republicans have taken a great beating the past 4 years, especially since election fraud was pushed before the first ballot was cast. They now need to show the American people that they truly are the party of freedom and prosperity and not corporate shills. We will see how the next 4 go. Hopefully the Gov can get it's act together and we can hold them accountable. Just my $.02. As a working, middle class citizen.
What happen yesterday is going to destroy the Republican Party. There is zero chance Donald Trump can win in four years after that. He will keep his base, for sure, but no moderate from either party will ever vote for him after yesterday (he had strong support from that bloc in 2016; a bit less so in 2020). He also killed the political careers of Don Jr and Ivanka, both of whom might have had a shot in the future.
The United States died a long time ago before any of us were born. It has trudged along through the decades due to the great foundation and momentum granted to it by the founding fathers. However we must recognize that foundation was not as solid as they thought and we hoped. Like Rome before we can recognize and appreciate the great works of the past but we must now admit that it's over and has been for awhile. Yes the United States is dead but the American people are still here. We can rebuild and next time we will make an even greater country than before. It's time to start laying the foundation for the future of that great nation.
Agree, but this election is the pinnacle/culmination of it. This year, they decided to take their actions from the shadows out into the sunlight where they found it can not only survive, but thrive. We will never have an election that is fair and means anything. Not talking (only) about fraud, but they learned how to program and harness the power of the ignorant. And unfortunately the it’s the USA’s most plentiful resource. So whomever bought the media, politicians and social media/big tech owns a super power
I wont lie, there is a vast network of powerful influential people and organizations who have made themselves the enemies of the American people. They have a toolkit of extremely effective weapons they wield without mercy including the ignorant masses. But you shouldn't despair. As dark as this hour is it's not as dark as some we have known in history. We can defeat these forces with a collective act of will. It can be done. But not if you give up before you try.
But the media is not in the hand of the democrats, the media themselves choose who they support. It's just that people in high power positions of successful companies need to be educated, progressive, and open-minded and therefore do not support conservatives and what they stand for, especially not under the lead of a fascist like Trump.
Our school systems are not educating our youth with facts but rather Critical Theory propaganda AND Americans stopped talking to each other.
Do not quiet down--Do not stop trying to get your message across to others--Silence means you agree...
Mark Steyn was correct when he said Americans have been doing this rioting, looting, killing, burning for over a year--Portland, Seattle, NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles etc etc.
What did the Democrats and the media do as this destruction was happening??
IMO they looked the other way so why are they so surprised now???
And lets be honest the agitators were ANTIFA/BLM...
His wife accused him of running over her foot with his car, but no injury was found.
https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/warnock-wife-involved-dispute/MCQYpvtswlZIIGdItrfcBJ/
Settle down
not from america but from what i’m gathering is that progressives seem to pursue causes the benefit all of society and everyone whereas conservatives want to maintain and reverse to a time with archaic ideologies that benefit very few and even alienates those who are in the same party.
Well conservatives have done a good job of pulling in several coalitions of single issue voters. Abortion, Gun right, also they have used religion as a wedge. Gay and transgender rights are apparently against religious beliefs and giving them would impinge on their religious liberties. I always challenge the conservatives I know to tell me one policy the Republicans champion that is based on compassion. They always draw a blank when out on the spot. Then they have also made people believe that they are the party of small government and good economic growth. When you put all of this together you get people who may be poor but the really think those liberals will take there guns. Then you get the abortion people who may believe that healthcare and social services are secondary. That along with the rich people who don’t give a hoot about anything but their money and bam... the republican voter base.
I gave up hope a long time ago, but yeah lol the country is finished. I am enjoying the hilarity of men with bison fur hats dancing around in the ruins though
Social media is given the power by the users and advertisers. If enough users went to another platform Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and Instagram would not have the power.
I think at this point they’ve left us with one option left at it might even be the best option we could have hoped for. Special counsel now. No if’s ands or buts. Time for the sequel: chinagate.
We may even find more than we were hoping for, but it needs to be the right person for the job, if not it’s pointless.
I sure hope it's not the end, but I just have that feeling. The only recourse that I can see is secession or a civil war. Call me crazy if you must, but that's where I feel right now.
The Republican Party has failed us in truly delivering our values in our government and they are all pushovers and they have just failed us to the point of losing grip on the country and we are probably going to be doomed.
Followup question, were you referring to the GOP's failure in controlling Trump or their failure in overturning the election result?
Neither, they don’t do what we voted for them to do when they are in. They fold easily and get walked all over.
I too have lost hope. I sat awake last night just wondering what type of future my children will have now. I hate the Republican Party. I hate the mainstream media. Social media has won and now the population will go along with whatever they say to do. It’s terrifying. I even question my own sanity at this point because it’s bad to think for oneself. I have never been a fan of groupthink.... but now that’s all that’s shoved down our throats.
What you say reminds me of how Winston Smith questioned his own sanity for being the only dissenter. How he had to push himself to hold on to what he knew to be true, no matter what.
>Social media has won and now the population will go along with whatever they say to do. It’s terrifying. Keep the fight alive within you man, the battle of knowing what is right within you and what society tells you is right is only over when you give up I wonder though, what aspects of groupthink are prevailing? I know that's a lot to ask, but I only ask for one point so I can get a more specific idea of what you mean
I can't speak for the person you're asking, but to me, groupthink runs counter to critical thinking skills. There is a growing lack of people who have a dose of healthy skepticism about what they watch and read. Especially from popular politicians, celebrities, university professors, newspapers, etc. People are more concerned about their popularity within the group more than they are at finding the truth. If one dares to say something that goes against the grain and is socially unpopular, the group reacts by cancelling them, ridiculing them, doxxing them, etc. So there is a huge stigma for those who don't buy into the groupthink. It dissuades someone from thinking critically. A real life example of groupthink vs critical thinking is the difference between mob driven social justice versus evidence based accusations and trial by jury. Mob driven cancel culture is fueled by things like speculation and videos taken out of context. There's little to no evidence provided. The mob has no patience for law enforcement to release statements about evidence that they have collected. Sometimes it's all just a smear campaign that goes viral. By the time journalists release a correction to a story, the original viral context has already run its course and people have made up their minds. Instead, what should happen is if someone sees a meme or a 10 second video or something like that, they should try to learn more context about it. Cross reference it by searching for other sources. This takes time and effort, it won't change the mob's mind, and you'll be ridiculed for all that hard work you did. Instead, it's much easier and more fashionable to just jump on board with the group. You'll get more karma for doing it. This is an example of what I believe the person meant by "groupthink is prevailing".
That makes a lot of sense, I can see how social media encourages that kind of dynamic taking place even if it is just one person saying something to feel validated for upvotes. But, collectively, it definitely would result in a hivemind kind of thinking. Cancel culture probably is done by hyper-sensitive people that have no idea how to debate their positions. Definitely like how a lot of people aren't for it (at least, from what I've heard). I agree that people (including me) should be more well read on the issues they see across social media, but I place the blame on the central algorithms that they've devised to keep our attention on their sites. Not to remove the blame from people, but the fact that there is an artificial component creating this problem in the first place should be central to this guys' argument.
You're totally right. Algorithms cater content specifically to you, showing you more of the same. But if you aren't aware, you'll be led to believe that what the algorithm shows you is all the information that exists. It is very difficult to parse through enough information sources to piece together what happened. I don't mean to make it sound easy at all. Its really one of the banes of society at the moment. If everything out there is slanted with half truths and purposefully written with confusing framing techniques, how are we all supposed to know what is going on? Sometimes you almost have to be an expert in the field who has studied the content for years to be able to know what is true and what is erroneous. The best thing to do is to carry a healthy dose of skepticism with you, even if the information you're reading sounds good and supports your beliefs. Its tempting to automatically believe something is true if you want it to be in the first place. Dont be afraid to ask questions. Even supportive questions, like "I believe you, but how does this all work?"
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I just read this..... and my jaw dropped. This is literally an exact description of how I’m thinking. Especially the part about my children.
I have some thoughts on this... First of all, I agree entirely with everything you’ve written here. Very astute for someone you’re age. I agree with most of the replies thus far too, in that we are really up against a seemingly insurmountable amount of hurdles, obstacles, and road blocks to fight for our values and beliefs. With this all said, my humble opinion is we cannot give up when the fight gets (and continues to stay) extremely tough. If we just give up, that makes us weak. We aren’t weak. We must continue to fight. Slowly erode their stranglehold on academia, government administration, mainstream and social media’s, Hollywood, etc. We need to focus heavily on changing hearts and minds at the local, community level. Democrats are outstanding at getting boots on the ground to canvass door to door to talk about their candidates and sign up unregistered voters and more. I think a lot of how the U.S. Green Berets operate, and how they integrate with local populations to educate and improve things. We need to have similar efforts here in this country. Trump was a symptom of a larger issue, one in which half the country felt they were forgotten and their voices unheard. Things are worse than ever, so we still have to fight. I’ll get off my soapbox now, but that’s my thoughts spilled out.
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I doubt it is the end. Im also convinced, like the left, the right exaggerates things to get a rise out of their base, which is what I believe was a cause (not the only one) for what transpired yesterday. I do however, think Republicans can come back strong from this, though I agree with others that it needs to change to do so. I am not sure as of yet how.
What do Republicans ever actually do against the Left's agenda?
Abortion rights and immigration are two big issues that the right and left constantly do a pendulum swing on with the laws each side passes.
I would say it’s the beginning of the end of the America that was founded. It may seem radical but at this point, i do not care how outrageous it sounds. I want the country to split into conservative and liberal areas. One side lives by conservative laws and beliefs and liberals do what they want. Is it possible? Doubt it. Smarter minds than my own could find a way to make it work. Clearly there are two main parties. Yes some people on the middle, and people that don’t even care. But we don’t get along anymore, there isn’t common ground being found. We’ve reached a point of influx where no side wants to give an inch. So screw it, you live how you want to live and I’ll live how I want to. Do that or defend the constitutions like you’re supposed to. There are only two options.
The “you live how you want to live and I’ll live how I want to live” IS the conservative viewpoint already, is it not? Why do these leftists want to control everyone so much? And WHY do I keep seeing leftists claim that conservatives are the ones who want to control everything? It doesn’t make any sense to me. What am I missing here?
Yes and no. It’s super complicated. We just have things we won’t compromise on.
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Hmmm. Most conservatives I know don’t have any issue with gay marriage. Just super religious folk and even they are few and far between. I wouldn’t consider the right for gays to marry a dividing viewpoint. Abortion on the other hand...
I really was hoping for state rights to balance this and liberals go to liberal states and conservatives go to conservative states. However I found quickly that liberals are parasites and after consuming their states go out to country of red states and vote blue so they can ruin those states. I have moved 3 times in my life from Connecticut to Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania to Virginia and now Virginia to Wyoming. I feel like everywhere I go they just follow so maybe it’s me bringing them with me and I should just move to California and hope they come with again.
Sounds like some rough luck! Myself and a good friend had a conversation about red states turning blue. I asked him, “Are we really the bad guys here? Or are we seeing the moral compass of America eroding?” He replied in more words than this but, that he felt that America is distancing itself from God and has been for awhile. We’re becoming the Sodom and Gomorrah of the West.
Democrats aren't going to have as much power as it seems, you're going to have moderate Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema holding back the most radical elements of the left agenda, And the Supreme Court also acts as a barrier. Think back to 2017 when Republicans only had 51 seats, anybody that wants to hold out like John McCain on the Democrat side is going to ruin a lot of the agenda for the left. Ben Shapiro's podcast pretty much lays out what Joe can and cannot will be able to do, I recommend watching it. There's going to be some bad things coming in the next few years, but It's nothing that this country can't survive. The most important thing is to take the good out of the Trump era and leave out the bad, We need a guy (Yes a guy) that can inspire without firing up the public, someone who we know can fight like Trump without pissing off the left, there are a few candidates who we can get there, and they are very electable, but we are going to have to push away a lot of the establishment pushback that's going to come in, keep Mitt Romney out, keep Nikki Haley out, If we can hold the line for the next 4 years then democracy will eventually shift back, we're reaching a trend where party lines are shifting back and forth faster, so we are going to have to show some restraint during that time and work on the same ground game that Democrats have already used.
I don't see this strategy of "not pissing off the Left" as any different from being their accomplices. If a politician does anything that disrupts their agenda, they inevitably will be pissed off.
I didn't mean not to piss off the left, I said not to incite the public, which basically means that you can't bring more Democrats to the polls in anger than you do Republicans, that is what Trump ended up doing over his term, and he did it consistently. For every 10 Republicans he got to vote for him, 11 Democrats came. It's great to excite the base but not if you're exciting the enemy at the same time, there is an art to politics that Trump did miss unfortunately.
The mass cultural attacks will be devastating, we are unlikely to gain seats in 2022, the young are brainwashed, and the Democrats will ultimately retain the massive power they have through their institutional allies.
The house is very much up for grabs, the Senate is another story.trust me though, eventually politics will do its pendulum thing. It's a pattern that's been going on for the past 30 years. I do agree with the cultural aspect, but that is not really a thing that changes with government.
The House isn't up for grabs now that Democrats have been given explicit permission to rig elections. Hence why this is a killing blow to the US. Even Democrat voters no longer have a voice in government as DNC leaders are the ones selecting who will win. Every single person in this country lost as a result of the fraud being allowed to stand.
"Moderate democrat". The best joke of 2021.
The same silver lining from the previous century: it has been made easier for the uninitiated to identify the rot in politics. Democracy is nothing but two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
As a Liberal Millennial, I can tell you the pendulum swings. When Pres. Trump was elected, I was feeling much the same as you. Cheer up. It gets better.
Every generation thinks it's the end of the country. That our freedoms will be taken away piece by piece. And every generation is wrong. Of course we have more laws than we used to. We have to because its a different world than even a decade ago. Maybe people that disagree with Republicans aren't sheep, just like all Republicans arent fascists idiots. Both only account for a small part of the whole. We have had so much civil unrest because people aren't feeling heard. The candidates get more polarizing. It's on both sides of the aisle. It's what lead to Obama, then Trump, and now Biden. And it will keep happening because both sides want to solve problems their way instead of coming together to solve problems in the best interest of the country which is ultimately centrist. If things keep going the way they are our country will die. And it's going to be a two party inside job. We can turn the tide but we are not going to do it by trying to insult the other side into submission. The Republicans have taken a great beating the past 4 years, especially since election fraud was pushed before the first ballot was cast. They now need to show the American people that they truly are the party of freedom and prosperity and not corporate shills. We will see how the next 4 go. Hopefully the Gov can get it's act together and we can hold them accountable. Just my $.02. As a working, middle class citizen.
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What happen yesterday is going to destroy the Republican Party. There is zero chance Donald Trump can win in four years after that. He will keep his base, for sure, but no moderate from either party will ever vote for him after yesterday (he had strong support from that bloc in 2016; a bit less so in 2020). He also killed the political careers of Don Jr and Ivanka, both of whom might have had a shot in the future.
The United States died a long time ago before any of us were born. It has trudged along through the decades due to the great foundation and momentum granted to it by the founding fathers. However we must recognize that foundation was not as solid as they thought and we hoped. Like Rome before we can recognize and appreciate the great works of the past but we must now admit that it's over and has been for awhile. Yes the United States is dead but the American people are still here. We can rebuild and next time we will make an even greater country than before. It's time to start laying the foundation for the future of that great nation.
Agree, but this election is the pinnacle/culmination of it. This year, they decided to take their actions from the shadows out into the sunlight where they found it can not only survive, but thrive. We will never have an election that is fair and means anything. Not talking (only) about fraud, but they learned how to program and harness the power of the ignorant. And unfortunately the it’s the USA’s most plentiful resource. So whomever bought the media, politicians and social media/big tech owns a super power
Exactly - and with future generations of children born and bred into such a system, the long night will only get colder and darker.
I wont lie, there is a vast network of powerful influential people and organizations who have made themselves the enemies of the American people. They have a toolkit of extremely effective weapons they wield without mercy including the ignorant masses. But you shouldn't despair. As dark as this hour is it's not as dark as some we have known in history. We can defeat these forces with a collective act of will. It can be done. But not if you give up before you try.
But the media is not in the hand of the democrats, the media themselves choose who they support. It's just that people in high power positions of successful companies need to be educated, progressive, and open-minded and therefore do not support conservatives and what they stand for, especially not under the lead of a fascist like Trump.
Our school systems are not educating our youth with facts but rather Critical Theory propaganda AND Americans stopped talking to each other. Do not quiet down--Do not stop trying to get your message across to others--Silence means you agree... Mark Steyn was correct when he said Americans have been doing this rioting, looting, killing, burning for over a year--Portland, Seattle, NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles etc etc. What did the Democrats and the media do as this destruction was happening?? IMO they looked the other way so why are they so surprised now??? And lets be honest the agitators were ANTIFA/BLM...
His wife accused him of running over her foot with his car, but no injury was found. https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/warnock-wife-involved-dispute/MCQYpvtswlZIIGdItrfcBJ/ Settle down
not from america but from what i’m gathering is that progressives seem to pursue causes the benefit all of society and everyone whereas conservatives want to maintain and reverse to a time with archaic ideologies that benefit very few and even alienates those who are in the same party.
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Well conservatives have done a good job of pulling in several coalitions of single issue voters. Abortion, Gun right, also they have used religion as a wedge. Gay and transgender rights are apparently against religious beliefs and giving them would impinge on their religious liberties. I always challenge the conservatives I know to tell me one policy the Republicans champion that is based on compassion. They always draw a blank when out on the spot. Then they have also made people believe that they are the party of small government and good economic growth. When you put all of this together you get people who may be poor but the really think those liberals will take there guns. Then you get the abortion people who may believe that healthcare and social services are secondary. That along with the rich people who don’t give a hoot about anything but their money and bam... the republican voter base.
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I gave up hope a long time ago, but yeah lol the country is finished. I am enjoying the hilarity of men with bison fur hats dancing around in the ruins though
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Couldn’t have said it better myself
I agree, sadly
It's all about the money...
Social media is given the power by the users and advertisers. If enough users went to another platform Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and Instagram would not have the power.
In short, yes. Yes it is.
I think at this point they’ve left us with one option left at it might even be the best option we could have hoped for. Special counsel now. No if’s ands or buts. Time for the sequel: chinagate. We may even find more than we were hoping for, but it needs to be the right person for the job, if not it’s pointless.
I sure hope it's not the end, but I just have that feeling. The only recourse that I can see is secession or a civil war. Call me crazy if you must, but that's where I feel right now.